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Navigating business and contemporary tech in the Cloud. Join Georgia and Matt as they unpack and simplify an important Cloud topic aimed at executives and business leaders. Along with the occasional special guest they will cover all things Cloud from strategy, execution, practical business use cases and much more!
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Friday May 02, 2025
Google Next 2025: Betting Big on Cloud and AI
Friday May 02, 2025
Friday May 02, 2025
šļø Cloud Dialogues: Vegas, AI, and Whatās Next with Google
This week on Cloud Dialogues, Georgia and MattĀ are joined by Anupam Phoghat, fresh off the tarmac from Google Next 2025 in Las Vegas, to break down the biggest announcements, hottest trends, and a few surprises from the cloud worldās glitziest event.
But first⦠the news roundup was š„:
šØ In the News:
- AWSās Big Growth Energy: 19% year-over-year growth and strong focus on making AI cheaper and fasterāthanks to Tranan 2 chips.
- Data Center Power Drain: By 2030, data centers could be drawing more power than Japan. Edge computing, youāre up.
- OpenAI Eyes Windsurf: Rumored $3B acquisition of a VS Code fork to boost its dev gameāand catch up to Claude Code.
- Nvidiaās $5.5B Problem: U.S. export restrictions to China are biting hard.
- Kubernetes is Back (Again): KubeCon London showed signs of a Kubernetes renaissanceāmaybe AI on the edge is to thank.
- MCP Becomes the Standard: Google jumps on Anthropicās Model Connection Protocol bandwagon. AI models are finally learning to play nice with data.
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š° Straight from the Vegas Strip: Google Next 2025 Highlights
Anu gives us the inside scoop from the Strip, where 35,000+ attendees spread across 10 hotels saw Google go all-in on AI everything.
⨠Big Announcements:
- The AI Hyper Computer: Custom hardware to supercharge inference at scale
- GKE Upgrades: Now with inference gateway and full VM support
- Cloud Run & Cloud WAN: Big leaps in serverless and networking
- Vertex AIās Model Garden: A smorgasbord of foundation models, including Claude and Llama
- Agent Development Kit: Tooling to build your own AI agents (think RAG meets agents IRL)
- Open-source + Interop Love: More cross-platform support, less vendor lock-in
We also dug into: ā¾ļø MLBās use of AI agents to manage network ops
š§ Why your AI is only as smart as your training data
š© Twitter/X as a case study in what not to feed your model
Anu wrapped by sharing the mission behind Nebulla Actionāhis new venture building practical, industry-focused AI tools for healthcare, finance, and retail.
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š§ Ready to decode Googleās big bets and what they mean for your business?
Tune in now wherever you get your podcastsāor hit the link in our bio.
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#CloudDialogues #GoogleNext2025 #AI #CloudComputing #VertexAI #DevOps #OpenSource #CloudStrategy #GKE #AIInfrastructure #Podcast

Thursday Apr 24, 2025
Behind the Scenes of CloudOps: What to Automate and When
Thursday Apr 24, 2025
Thursday Apr 24, 2025
In this episode of Cloud Dialogues, Georgia and Matt are joined by Amit from OpenOps for a deep (and refreshingly honest) dive into the state of cloud automation todayāand where it's heading next.
We kick things off with a look at the latest industry news:
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Huawei gears up to produce its own AI chips in response to ongoing tariff challenges
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Microsoft and Amazon hit pause on data center expansion due to power constraints
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And yes⦠humanoid robots just ran a half-marathon in China (because why not?)
Then we shift gears into automation. Amit brings a wealth of experienceāfrom Microsoft to cybersecurity to autonomous vehiclesāand shares sharp, real-world insights on what it actually takes to build a sustainable automation strategy in the cloud.
š Topics We Cover:
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The journey from visibility ā orchestration ā automation
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Why āhuman-in-the-loopā automation is often the safest bet
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How risk appetite should drive your automation roadmap
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Why not automating can cost you more than you thinkāespecially in cloud security and efficiency
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The growing role of AI in automation (and why it still needs a chaperone)
š” Amit reminds us that while the dream of fully autonomous cloud ops is on the horizon, weāre not quite there yetāand human oversight remains as crucial as ever.
Whether you're early in your automation journey or deep in fine-tuning, thereās something in this episode for every cloud leader.
š§ Listen now wherever you get your podcastsāand check out OpenOps on GitHub for some powerful tools to get started.
Fine OpenOps on GitHub https://github.com/openops-cloudĀ
#CloudAutomation #CloudOps #AI #DevOps #CloudStrategy #CloudDialogues #OpenOps

Thursday Apr 10, 2025
Cloud Dialogues x Ctrl+Alt+Expletive Special The DevX Files Truths, Tools & Tantrums
Thursday Apr 10, 2025
Thursday Apr 10, 2025
In this lively crossover episode, Mark, Michael, Georgia, and Matt bring their unique podcasting perspectives together for a deep (and occasionally hilarious) dive into the world of cloud, AI, and developer experience. Here's what went down:
š Meet the Hosts
The episode kicks off with introductions:
- Georgia & Matt host a show aimed at execs exploring cloud and AI strategy, launched in 2023.
- Mark & Michael bring a laid-back, pub-style tech chat that started back in November.
Think of it as business meets banter.
š„ Breaking Prod: A Dev Confession
Matt shares a "whoops-that-couldāve-been-bad" momentāhe accidentally wiped critical files from a pre-prod app server right before a major CRM migration. The silver lining? A stealthy recovery from backups saved the day, and no one was the wiser (until now).
āļø Cloud & AI News Roundup
The crew unpacks the latest in cloud and AI, including:
- Model Context Protocol (MCP): An open standard for LLMs to interface with APIsārecently adopted by OpenAI.
- Big Money, Big Roles: A jaw-dropping $255ā450K job posting at Anthropic focused on MCP.
- AI Art & IP Issues: The debate over AI-generated images and artist rights heats up.
- AI + Security = Headache: From vulnerabilities to weaponization, AIās security implications are growing.
- Oracle Data Breaches: Recent incidents affecting Oracle Cloud and Oracle Health (formerly Cerner) spark a discussion on health data privacy.
š ļø Deep Dive: Developer Experience (DevX)
This is where things get real. The team unpacks whatās workingāand whatās painfully brokenāwhen it comes to how developers work inside big organizations.
What is DevX, Anyway?
- Itās the day-to-day reality of building software: tools, processes, workflows.
- Googleās monorepo + DevX team gets a gold star, but most companies? Not quite there yet.
Common DevX Pain Points:
- Security rules that block the tools devs actually *want* to use.
- Glacial laptops and outdated hardware.
- Missing, buried, or just plain wrong documentation.
- Slow, bureaucratic approval chains.
- No proper API tooling in place (hello, Postman and Backstage!).
Why It Matters:
- Bad DevX = unhappy developers = high turnover.
- Wasted time for high-salary engineers isnāt just annoyingāitās expensive.
- Cloud migration without DevX in mind? Recipe for inefficiency and surprise costs.
Fixing DevX (Yes, Itās Possible):
- Build "paved paths"āsecure, approved, and actually usable.
- Strike a balance between security and speed.
- Track where time is wasted (slow builds, anyone?).
- Treat developers like customers. Ask what they need. Then deliver it.
š Recommended Reads
The team wraps with book recs for anyone looking to level up:
- Platform Engineering (Michael)
- Unlearn by Barry OāReilly (Matt)
- Working Backwards (Georgia)
- Amped Up by Frank SlumanĀ
- Plus: [DX.com/research/overview](https://DX.com/research/overview) for even more DevX insights
Bottom Line: Whether youāre leading cloud adoption or building internal platforms, donāt overlook DevX. Great tools and experiences arenāt a nice-to-haveātheyāre your competitive edge.

Thursday Mar 27, 2025
Thursday Mar 27, 2025
Weāre back with another powerful conversation ā this time with the incredible Julia Arnott-Neenee, Cofounder of Fibre Fale, tech leader and advocate for digital equity.
š But first, we break down this weekās biggest Cloud & AI news:
š¹ Googleās eye-watering $32B acquisition of Wiz ā what does it mean for cybersecurity?
š¹ Oracleās $5B investment in UK Cloud ā big moves in Europe!
š¹ Tencentās new AI reasoning model & Appleās clean energy fund in China (Georgia covers off on 'what are reasoning models?' š±
š¹ Microsoftās Malaysia data center expansion
š¹ The growing data center power consumption problem ā”
š¹ EUās push to dominate the AI chip industry
Then, we dive into a must-listen conversation with Julia Arnott-Neenee, tackling:
š The digital & AI divideāwhoās being left behind?
š” Empowering Pacific communities through tech
š Why technology needs to shift power to those most impacted
š The big question: Who isnāt in the room when decisions are made?
Juliaās journey is inspiringāleaving a global career to serve her community and co-founding a Pacific social enterprise thatās already making waves (her co-founder just won Young New Zealander of the Year! š). š
Key Takeaways:
ā AI & tech reflect existing biasesāhow do we fix this?
ā Marginalized communities must be seen as creators, not just consumers
ā Moving from tech for profit ā to tech for people
ā The need for community-led solutions in digital transformation
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š Listen now for a thought-provoking discussion on why digital inclusion matters more than ever.
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Find Julia's Fibre Fale here: https://www.fibrefale.com
#CloudTransformation #DigitalInclusion #AI #TechLeadership #PacificInnovation

Thursday Mar 20, 2025
Thursday Mar 20, 2025
In this latest episode of Cloud Dialogues, we dive into the evolving world of AI, data governance, and cloud transformation. Packed with insights for tech leaders, here's what you can expect:
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AI Industry Insights
- CoreWeave's $12B OpenAI Contract: A reminder that infrastructure shortages could be on the horizon as AI scales.
- China's AI Ambitions: Baidu's Ernie models and Honor's $10B AI investment signal big moves in the East.
- Copyright Controversy: OpenAI wants easier access to copyrighted materialāraising big questions for creators.
- Regulation Rundown: The EUās early AI regulation contrasts with the US's more relaxed approach.
- Data Center Growth: Thailand's $3B investment and AWSās new region create fresh opportunities for startups.
- Security Spotlight: Appleās stand against UK encryption laws sparks debate.
- Productivity Buzz: JP Morgan claims AI coding tools improved productivity by 10-20%, and our hosts would lose to analyse this data. AI Innovations and Tools
- OpenAIās New Agent Tools: Potentially big competition for Anthropicās MCP.
- Robotics Advances: DeepMindās Gemini Robotics pushes "embodied reasoning" in AI-driven robots.
- Sustainability Challenges: AIās energy demands rise, with Amazon and Google pledging nuclear energy support.
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Cloud Transformation for CIOs ā The New Rules of Innovation with Steve Tzortzidis from V2 Digital
Steve brings a wealth of insights on building AI-ready data foundations:
- Data Readiness: To harness AIās potential, data must be accessible, trusted, and well-governed.
- Federated Data Models: Balancing centralized governance with domain-driven autonomy to improve speed and accountability.
- "Start Small" Approach: Focus on specific use cases rather than boiling the ocean.
- DBT's Role: DBTās testing, validation, and documentation features simplify data transformation.
- AIās Future: Expect 2025 to focus heavily on AI agents, multimodal models, and real-world operationalization.
Key Takeaway for Tech Leaders Success with AI isnāt just about the toolsāitās about strong data foundations, smart governance, and embracing iterative change. If youāre steering your organization through data and AI transformation, this episode is packed with actionable insights.
šÆ Stay Ahead of the Curve: For weekly insights on AI, data, and digital transformation, subscribe to Cloud Dialogues weekly executive insights at cloud-dialogues.com

Thursday Mar 13, 2025
Thursday Mar 13, 2025
For part 2 of our 2025 IWD series We chatted to Natalie Badawy from Circuit Recruitment about how to attract, retain, and empower more women in tech!
šÆ From Neurophysiology to Tech Recruitment: Natalie shares her inspiring career switch and how her background in human sciences shaped her approach to helping people break into tech.Ā
š¤ Creating Inclusive Cloud Cultures: We explore practical strategies for supporting women in tech, from running internal bias workshops to ensuring interview panels reflect diverse backgrounds.Ā
š©āš» Her Tech Circle: Learn how this fantastic DE&I organization is empowering women in tech careers.Ā
š The Business Case for Diversity: We discuss how token efforts can backfire, while meaningful change improves retention, innovation, and business outcomes.Ā
š¬ Male Allies in Tech: How men can better support women in the workplace ā even if they donāt always know where to start.Ā
š Flexibility & Return to Office (RTO): The episode dives into how workplace flexibility is vital for creating inclusive environments, particularly for caregivers. We discuss how rigid RTO mandates can disproportionately impact diverse employees and why trust-based flexibility leads to better outcomes for everyone.
Itās an episode full of practical advice, real-world insights, and thought-provoking discussion. Donāt miss it!
š² Join the conversation about creating meaningful change in tech.
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Thursday Mar 06, 2025
Thursday Mar 06, 2025
To kick off our 2025 International Womenās Day series, Georgia and Matt sat down with Yasmin Benjamin, Head of Cloud and Finance, for an incredible conversation about navigating leadership, staying technical, and thriving as a woman in cloud.
š Cloud & AI News Highlights
We covered some of the weekās biggest cloud and tech stories, including:
š¬ Quantum Race Heats Up ā Google, Microsoft & AWS all making quantum moves (but donāt expect breakthroughs just yet).
š Skype & Amazon Chime Say Goodbye ā Both platforms heading for retirement. Georgia reminisces about Chime.
š Satellite Showdownā Chinaās āSpace Saleā takes on Starlink, while Australia's National Broadband Network picks Amazon over Musk.
š± iPhone Encryption Shakeup ā UK pressures Apple to soften its backup encryption.
š¬ Signal Stands Its Ground ā May leave Sweden to protect message security.
š” In the Spotlight: Yasmin Benjamin
Yasminās career is a masterclass in blending deep technical expertise with bold leadership.
With a background spanning systems engineering, AI & robotics, and even a current PhD in quantum computing (!), sheās proof you donāt have to choose between tech and leadership ā you can own both.
Key Themes We Covered:
š©āš» From Engineer to Leader ā How Yasmin stayed hands-on even as she moved up the ranks.
š¶ Balancing Motherhood & Career ā Keeping technical skills sharp during career breaks.
š©āš The Power of Community ā Building networks to avoid feeling isolated as a senior woman in tech.
⨠Authentic Leadership ā Why being yourself beats fitting the mould every time.
š° The Reality of Cloud in Financial Services - If you thought banking was all cutting-edge tech ā think again.
Yasmin gave us a behind-the-scenes look at where financial services really are:
š¶ Legacy Lives On ā Yep, some banks are still running on systems from the disco era.
āļø Hybrid Cloud is the Default ā Most are juggling on-prem with Azure & AWS.
š¤ AI in Banking ā Right now, itās all about smarter chatbots & faster data processing (with RAG models ensuring accuracy).
š Data is (Still) Hard ā Especially when compliance, structured & unstructured data all collide.
š¬ Yasminās Advice for Women in Tech
š§ Stay Technical ā Donāt lose your hands-on skills, even in leadership roles.
š¤ Find Your People ā Mentors, sponsors & allies make all the difference.
šØāš¼ Bring the Guys Along ā Male allyship is critical to driving real change.
š± Pace Yourself ā Careers are marathons, not sprints ā focus on learning, not rushing to the top.
Bonus gem: Yasmin wrapped up by sharing her creative side ā she wrote an e-book called "How The Two Worlds Collideā, blending her love of Star Trek & Star Wars. Tech leaders who write sci-fi? Weāre here for it.
You can find it here: https://tayloryasmin.gumroad.com/l/eyqci

Thursday Feb 13, 2025
Thursday Feb 13, 2025
In this episode, we go beyond the tech and dive into what really makes cloud transformation work: people, culture, and leadership. Itās not just about moving workloadsāitās about shifting mindsets!
š„ Hereās what we unpacked:
š§ AI & Industry Trends ā From the impact of AI data centers on the UKās water supply to shifting DEI commitments and ongoing tech layoffs, we break down whatās shaping the industry.
š„ Culture is the Real Challenge ā Cloud isnāt just a tech upgrade, itās a people-first transformation. Upskilling your current teams, fostering innovation, and finding internal champions is the real game-changer.
š° Cloud Costs & FinOps ā Spoiler: Estimating cloud costs upfront is tricky! We talk about bridging the IT-finance gap, avoiding hidden licensing costs, and why FinOps is a team sport.
š Managing Change (Without the Drama!) ā Pilot projects, gradual adoption, and bringing people along rather than pushing them awayāwe cover strategies for making change stick.
š§ Talent Trends in 2025 ā The on-prem vs. cloud skills gap is growing, and companies need flexible work policies and smart upskilling to stay ahead.
š¤ AI in the Cloud ā AI is powerful, but do you really need to build your own models? We discuss data management, AI biases, and why human oversight still matters.
š Bottom line: Successful cloud transformation isnāt just about technologyāitās about creating a culture that embraces learning, adaptability, and collaboration.
š§ Listen now and tell us: Whatās been your biggest challenge with cloud culture? Drop it in the comments! š
#CloudDialogues #CloudTransformation #CloudCulture #Leadership #CloudStrategy #FinOps #AI #CloudOps

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